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Ginger Hearn Email
09/22/12

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If we all 'target' the date of October 12, maybe enough of us 'Oldies but Goodies' will show up with those Boomers...that are only 2 yrs our juniors... maybe it will even be cool..? Who knows.. Not today, though..
    The dates...are 9-28 to 10-21..so we've got time.. I typed in State Fair of Texas on FB... I'd like to find a 'free ticket'...I'll look for one of those.. I haven't been since the 70's, so a lot has changed..including the price, I'm sure.. I always enjoyed the 'exhibits', best of all.. Well, except for the time Mike Murphey and I  smooched in the Planetarium Show with the Little Old Lady, sitting next to us.. I've not done that since.. I would imagine that a lot of kids have done that..but it was unique at the State Fair.. and of course with MMM, who is married to his 4th wife, now, who happens to be 'very attractive'..
    Bob Baker and I share comments about the 'old days', and he was a friend of MMM. Bob was also one of those 'original' Cowboy Cheerleaders with Mary McCord, wasn't he..or does my aging memory fail me.?  I call them "Charter Members of the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders".. Bruce Pffeifer..Adamson Cheerleader and an old friend of my sister,  puts those early Cowboy Cheerleaders' pictures...up on Facebook, but they're later pictures..since Bruce and all 'those people' are Boomers.. No one has put a picture up of our cheerleaders at one of those games...  (Lynell...find one...an put it up.. I know there's at least one, in our annuals..even though I haven't seen mine in years.) 
   Onward...through the 'Hot as Hell..first day of Fall in Texas'..So...what else is new..?


dan shellito Email
09/22/12

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fAIR DAY,You had to go.free ticket and a day out of school. The young ladies would dance across the stage on the midway to the song Rockin Robin. They scared me to death.Of course all of you senior girls scared me!! 2 things to do now is watch the Marine Corp Drum and bugle band at 3pm and the Bird show. Both have been there over 30 years I'm thinking. Police presents makes it a safe place.Skip the fried banannas..The 1 st week has all of the livestock. See you there!


Kathleen Burrow Pulte Email
09/21/12

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Do any of you remember the burlesque shows at the fair when we were children?  They were discontinued years ago. I remember scantily clothed women standing outside on a stage and they would try to get men to come in and watch them do their act.  Most of the men wouldn't go inside, but liked to see the free preview.


Ginger Hearn Email
09/21/12

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Next week..Forgot what date..?? I probably can only last 4 hours.. That's okay with me... Type in the State Fair of Texas on FB..or look for their website..


Lynell Garrett Smith 
09/21/12

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We'll probably go to the Fair, though my tolerance for such events is down to about four hours now.  I remember when I would stay out there much longer.  Wish I had realized then that I was experiencing the good ol' days.


charlotte anders s 
09/21/12

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The last picture I saw of Big Tex, he had been updated to a more modern look.  Too bad.  Didn't he used to talk?  Does he still?  When does the State Fair begin?


Ginger Hearn Email
09/21/12

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Hey, Kids...tomorrow is National Hobbit Day (or so FB says)...Go Barefooted..! I've got a headstart...

The Oak Cliff Boomers on FB...are meeting at Big Tex, at noon, on October 12.. I'm seriously thinking about going... Haven't seen Big Tex, in person...in years and years.. 


Ginger Hearn Email
09/21/12

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Donkey and Elephant are both in trouble with Uncle Sam, who represents a 'whole lot of people'... There's been a good cartoon on FB about that.. We all agree that they're doing a poor job in Washington... It's been going on for years.. Don't blame it on the 'Black Man, who is also White'..in Washington. Disregarding a lot of 'goings on' for a lot of years, through Democrat and Republican Presidents..   


charlotte anders s 
09/21/12

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What about all the illegals of all countries who are paid in cash?  They pay no taxes and their employers call it "contract labor"  so they pay nothing either.....there are MANY types of people who do not pay "their fair share"  I'm not talking donkey or elephant here just facts. 


Lynell Garrett Smith: 
09/21/12

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From personal experience, I can attest to all manner of people who thought they were entitled to skim income and not report it to the tax man.  Shame on them, I say.


Bill Akins 
09/21/12

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And we're not talking politics here?

OK, I surrender. It's pretty obvious to me that most, if not all of my conservative friends have abandoned this forum already, so maybe I'll join them.

But first a parting word. Over 50% of the tax burden of this country is carried by what you folks refer to as the wealthy. And yet, the other folks, those who pay nothing, want them to pay even more. But you scream for a "fair share".  Remember the old saying, "You can rob Peter to pay Paul, until Peter runs out of money." There are so many ways that what is happening in this country is wrong. The president stated four years ago that he would fundamentally change America, and he is well on his way. Just a few more industries and the government will have it all under control. Then we will all dream of the America that used to be, before the fundamental change.

Bye!


charlotte anders s 
09/21/12

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Quote:  "I have never understood why it is "greed" to want to the money you've earned, but not greed to want to take somebody else's money  -Thomas Sowell.


Kathleen Burrow Pulte Email
09/21/12

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Ginger, finally someone has spoken out on the unfairness of how the wealthy aren't paying their share of taxes.  It seems that too many people seem to think it is ok that the wealthy are not paying their fair share.  I am disturbed by this situation.


Bill Akins 
09/21/12

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Making a statement that the wealthy don't pay taxes is about the same as saying poor folks are all on food stamps. It's a big, broad brush! How about some wealthy don't pay taxes, and some poor folks are on food stamps?


Ginger Hearn Email
09/21/12

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It is wrong. It is always wrong when they don't pay enough taxes.. It's called Greed.   The tax structure is long overdue being 'overhauled', we know that,but what has happened to our country is a 'mockery' to all the 'Free World'...
  (No Names called, no political parties nixed. The problems we have, have been a long time coming.., but at least we've got the conversation going, in this country.) Don't stop the conversation..
 Lynell, your description of how you handled that $1000., is like a Math Word Problem.. I tutored for 2 yrs and I had to solve those things...once again, but they're NO FUN...! I admire you for taking on the task..


Kathleen Burrow Pulte Email
09/21/12

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Bill, I used to work for the IRS and i know for a fact that wealthy folks don't pay taxes.  Unlike the rest of us, they have all kinds of loopholes and attorneys who make sure they don't pay.  Some of them take years along with their attorneys  protesting their income taxes.  A lot of them hide their incomes in Swiss banks or the Cayman Islands.  Trust me they know all the tricks to avoiding taxes.  


Bill Akins 
09/20/12

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Not a trick question at all. But when folks think it's wrong that some wealthy folks don't pay as much in taxes it's just not true. In hard dollars they pay considerably more than you and I even if the percentage is less. Many of them get lower rates because they get investment income which is taxed at a lower rate. But most times those investments are in companies producing goods and providing jobs. And sometimes those investments don't pay off, as Lynell showed in her example. In that case that investor may lose everything he put into it.


Kathleen Burrow Pulte 
09/20/12

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Bill, I agree with Lynell.  I hope this isn't a question like the little kid who takes the nickel over the dime because the nickel is bigger in size. 


Lynell Garrett Smith: 
09/20/12

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Bill, I'm going for the 15%, if I were the gov't.  Not a math major, so let me know if I made the right choice.


Lynell Garrett Smith 
09/20/12

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Kathleen, I paid income tax on the $1,000 (plus SS and the other taxes) and capital gains tax on profit, if any.


Lynell Garrett Smith 
09/20/12

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A tax on purchases would do away with skimmers. One amusing thing about depositions was meeting people who were paid in cash.  Most felt sorry for themselves, so they justified cheating. They'd sue some insurance company for a zillion dollars and claim they made half a zillion every year.  No tax record, of course. It was interesting to see their reactions when asked to produce tax records.

My personal belief is that one day we'll get to 'splain any failure to render unto Caesar to a Higher Being. 


Bill Akins 
09/20/12

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If someone is giving you (let's say the gov't ) money (let's say taxes), would you rather get 15% of $10 million or 25% of $150,000.

One of the things I learned as a buyer for Tom Thumb was that you can deposit $10 in the bank, but you can't deposit 25%. Business sense tells you that if you lower your price just a bit and take a smaller % of profit you will sell more goods and put more money in the bank.


kathleen Burrow Pulte 
09/20/12

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Wow Lynell, did you pay 35% in taxes and then a  capital gains tax on your $200 profit or did you pay it on the whole $1200?   Did you pay in $350 plus your capital gains tax on your $1200?  I think it is amazing that Warren Buffet's (the second richest man in the U.S.) secretary pays in more taxes than he does.   Buffet was amazed  when he discovered that she paid more.  No, Bill I didn't mean for this to be  political, especially since we all do pay taxes.  My point is I think we should pay fairly according to our income.  I have thought for a long time that small businesses and the self-employed also pay more taxes.


Lynell Garrett Smith 
09/20/12

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Let's say that during the years I slaved away as a self-employed court reporter I invested $1,000 of my hard-earned money for my old age because I understood that funding my retirement was up to me.  In order for me to have $1,000 I had to earn a whole lot more than that and pay taxes on it at a rate of twenty-something percent.  (I also had to pay 15% into Social Security because I worked for myself.)

Someone smarter than I will have to do the math on this, but let's say that after I make my $1,000 free and clear after I pay income tax, SS, Medicare, FICA and everything else, I invested my $1000 in Acme Mfg Co., made famous in Roadrunner cartoons.

Acme stock could have gone up or down, but let's say it went up, and I sell the stock and make a profit.  Assume that profit is $200.  I will get back $1200 and pay capital gains tax on that $200.  Capital gains are taxed at a lower rate than income.  Remember, I already paid taxes on the $1000.

But my $1,000 could have dwindled to $500, and I would have lost money. 

Someone smarter than I about financial stuff probably could explain it more clearly.  And no, I am not rich, except in kittycats.




Ginger Hearn Email
09/20/12

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Not quite, Bill. We all are affected by taxes.. However, probably Lynell can't answer the question..!    (or maybe she can..?)


Bill Akins 
09/20/12

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Are we talking politics again?


Kathleen Burrow Pulte Email
09/20/12

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I would like to know why people who fall into the highest income levels don't pay the same amount of income tax as the rest of us.  I am not talking about the 47% who don't pay income tax because some of them have paid into social security and other retirement type funds when they were able to work.  So, in essence, they are just getting back their own money.   According to the constitution aren't we all equal?  I don't like sales tax because they are unfair to the poor, who have less money to spend then the rest of us.  Maybe, we should do like we do in the church and tithe with 10% of our income.  It might be better than the system we have now.  


Lynell Garrett Smith: 
09/19/12

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Dan, lots of us are on Facebook.  I'm Lynell Garrett Smith.  There's also a SOC group, a Lisbon group and an Oak Cliff Boomers (huge) group.  Please friend me!

Sounds like the Fish Fry is close to Toyota of Paris.  The city has grown a lot since I bought my '85 Supra!


Dan Shellito Email
09/19/12

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Lynell,The Fish Fry Is located on the NE corner of Loop 286. So good!!! 
Sharon Cambell soup is still there. On a wet over cast day you would never want to have soup just from the smell.
Ginger,sadly i'm diabetic also. But it hasn't effected my life  much.
Best shrimp dinner in Dallas is S&D Oyster Bar on Mc Kinney .There slaw is awsome!
Anyone on face book?    


Lynell Garrett Smith 
09/19/12

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Dan, where is the Fish Fry?  I'll check it out next time I'm in Paree.
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